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You can sue it is your legal right.
You can sue it is your legal right.
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Generally, the question is first to the person who gave you a sick unvaccinated kitten, even a small one. Collect documents confirming what manipulations were carried out in the clinic. Start by filing a written claim to the clinic, simultaneously to the Russian consumer watchdog, you can also do it to the prosecutor's office.
Generally, the question is first to the person who gave you a sick unvaccinated kitten, even a small one. Collect documents confirming what manipulations were carried out in the clinic. Start by filing a written claim to the clinic, simultaneously to the Russian consumer watchdog, you can also do it to the prosecutor's office.
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1. You must have a full medical history of the kitten from the first clinic - when you went to what symptoms, what was the diagnosis, what treatment was prescribed. Sealed by the clinic 2. You should have an autopsy report with the exact cause of death Only then you can try to file a complaint.
1. You must have a full medical history of the kitten from the first clinic - when you went to what symptoms, what was the diagnosis, what treatment was prescribed. Sealed by the clinic 2. You should have an autopsy report with the exact cause of death Only then you can try to file a complaint.
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You took the already sick kitten took him to the clinic that's good but when you were told you had to do not only what the doctor did why the other clinic was no more calls and a few days kitten was dying but in the end the first doctor was to blame and he did not diagnose correctly and you did nothing to help here and why did you wait and now it's hard to prove anything
You took the already sick kitten took him to the clinic that's good but when you were told you had to do not only what the doctor did why the other clinic was no more calls and a few days kitten was dying but in the end the first doctor was to blame and he did not diagnose correctly and you did nothing to help here and why did you wait and now it's hard to prove anything
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If I were you, I would better take care not to retaliate, especially as in your case, this is the delirium of a madman, you can not prove anything, if only because you first have to prove that you are the rightful owner of the kitten, and for this you need the appropriate documents. Yes, and you have a controversial situation in general, no one will even talk, just laugh at you and that's all. If you still have the coordinates of a bad person who gave you a sick kitten, contact him, because if it was an infection, this person will continue to distribute, infect, breed sick animals, spreading the infection. If it is an isolated case of kitten transmission for him, you should still contact him, because by coming into contact with an infected animal, he could return to his home and infect his pets. Why did you go to a public clinic and not a private with a reputation, we all know that in the public health clinic is only worth going to get a certificate, think about who will go to work there, students or graduates with no experience? What kind of service you wanted to get there and what kind of medical expertise you were counting on? Also, the kitten could be in such an emaciated and weakened state that it was impossible to take a blood test, blood is taken from a vein, which still needs to get into and suck out a certain amount of blood. The vet simply decided not to torture a dying animal unnecessarily. If you wanted to use any chance you had to take him and put him in a 24-hour hospital under round-the-clock supervision and total control of doctors, and pay a lot of money for that. And you saw that the treatment didn't work, that the kitten was dying and you kept waiting for a miracle. There are no miracles, unfortunately. If it gives you some comfort - the mortality rate of such small kittens from panleukopenia is very high, it is unlikely that he would have survived even in another scenario.
If I were you, I would better take care not to retaliate, especially as in your case, this is the delirium of a madman, you can not prove anything, if only because you first have to prove that you are the rightful owner of the kitten, and for this you need the appropriate documents. Yes, and you have a controversial situation in general, no one will even talk, just laugh at you and that's all. If you still have the coordinates of a bad person who gave you a sick kitten, contact him, because if it was an infection, this person will continue to distribute, infect, breed sick animals, spreading the infection. If it is an isolated case of kitten transmission for him, you should still contact him, because by coming into contact with an infected animal, he could return to his home and infect his pets. Why did you go to a public clinic and not a private with a reputation, we all know that in the public health clinic is only worth going to get a certificate, think about who will go to work there, students or graduates with no experience? What kind of service you wanted to get there and what kind of medical expertise you were counting on? Also, the kitten could be in such an emaciated and weakened state that it was impossible to take a blood test, blood is taken from a vein, which still needs to get into and suck out a certain amount of blood. The vet simply decided not to torture a dying animal unnecessarily. If you wanted to use any chance you had to take him and put him in a 24-hour hospital under round-the-clock supervision and total control of doctors, and pay a lot of money for that. And you saw that the treatment didn't work, that the kitten was dying and you kept waiting for a miracle. There are no miracles, unfortunately. If it gives you some comfort - the mortality rate of such small kittens from panleukopenia is very high, it is unlikely that he would have survived even in another scenario.
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What the other doctor said on the phone has no effect. Maybe there really was poisoning but weakened body kitten treatment has not helped. He came to you sick from the beginning, probably not just one thing. The tests here, yes, you had to insist on them, plus if the kitten was getting worse with the start of treatment, you need to run back to the clinic. Even with all the certificates, the autopsy report to prove the guilt of the first vet will not just difficult, but unrealistic in principle. If there is any guilt at all. The kitten could already be in such condition that nothing could help it.
What the other doctor said on the phone has no effect. Maybe there really was poisoning but weakened body kitten treatment has not helped. He came to you sick from the beginning, probably not just one thing. The tests here, yes, you had to insist on them, plus if the kitten was getting worse with the start of treatment, you need to run back to the clinic. Even with all the certificates, the autopsy report to prove the guilt of the first vet will not just difficult, but unrealistic in principle. If there is any guilt at all. The kitten could already be in such condition that nothing could help it.
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You are right. But in general, the treatment is antiviral, not for poisoning. Nothing was prescribed for poisoning. That is, the vet assumed panleukopenia and probably wrote it down in the chart. True, the treatment is poor and lacking. Ribotan is the cheapest immunomodulator and there are more effective ones. This is practically the only thing prescribed. Gamavit - homeopathy for all weakened animals, who believes in homeopathy, prescribes it who does not believe - does not prescribe it. Not prescribed saline for dehydration. With vomiting and diarrhea, it always happens. Even dying animals are relieved of dehydration so they do not suffer. Nothing is prescribed for vomiting and diarrhea. In addition, antibiotics and vitafel immune serum are often prescribed for panleukopenia. Although even with good treatment a small unvaccinated kitten has little chance of surviving panleukopia. The culprit is more resellers who have apartment and kitten boxes infected with panleukopenia in 90 cases. To sue for this you can get quite a little: a refund for the treatment and moral damages. And moral damages are usually awarded by the courts for a little less than the plaintiffs want. Plus, the loser of the trial has to pay for an autopsy by a lawyer. If you want to sue, you should do an autopsy and get a copy of the medical records. You may need to write an application for a certified copy of the medical records to the director of the veterinary clinic. Further compare the diagnosis in the chart and the results of the autopsy. If they are different it can be written in a claim. If they are the same you can write a complaint about poor treatment. But then you need expertise from another vet, ie another vet on a piece of paper with a stamp should write what were the shortcomings of treatment and that they led to death. Then you have to write a pretrial claim: 1 what were the shortcomings of the service 2 what damage they caused you 3 what compensation you want. If in 10 days the clinic does not transfer the required amount, you can sue in court. The costs of the autopsy and examination can be included in a pre-trial claim and the cost of a lawyer will be added later in the lawsuit.
You are right. But in general, the treatment is antiviral, not for poisoning. Nothing was prescribed for poisoning. That is, the vet assumed panleukopenia and probably wrote it down in the chart. True, the treatment is poor and lacking. Ribotan is the cheapest immunomodulator and there are more effective ones. This is practically the only thing prescribed. Gamavit - homeopathy for all weakened animals, who believes in homeopathy, prescribes it who does not believe - does not prescribe it. Not prescribed saline for dehydration. With vomiting and diarrhea, it always happens. Even dying animals are relieved of dehydration so they do not suffer. Nothing is prescribed for vomiting and diarrhea. In addition, antibiotics and vitafel immune serum are often prescribed for panleukopenia. Although even with good treatment a small unvaccinated kitten has little chance of surviving panleukopia. The culprit is more resellers who have apartment and kitten boxes infected with panleukopenia in 90 cases. To sue for this you can get quite a little: a refund for the treatment and moral damages. And moral damages are usually awarded by the courts for a little less than the plaintiffs want. Plus, the loser of the trial has to pay for an autopsy by a lawyer. If you want to sue, you should do an autopsy and get a copy of the medical records. You may need to write an application for a certified copy of the medical records to the director of the veterinary clinic. Further compare the diagnosis in the chart and the results of the autopsy. If they are different it can be written in a claim. If they are the same you can write a complaint about poor treatment. But then you need expertise from another vet, ie another vet on a piece of paper with a stamp should write what were the shortcomings of treatment and that they led to death. Then you have to write a pretrial claim: 1 what were the shortcomings of the service 2 what damage they caused you 3 what compensation you want. If in 10 days the clinic does not transfer the required amount, you can sue in court. The costs of the autopsy and examination can be included in a pre-trial claim and the cost of a lawyer will be added later in the lawsuit.
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Panleukipenia and distemper, are different diseases. How do you attract? Sorry for the possibly cruel answer - no body, no case. You should have given the body for examination, if the doctor's negligence is confirmed, then demand compulsion and dismissal of the doctor. The worst thing is that even if the doctor is fired, tomorrow he will be working in another clinic or will be in private practice. There is no criminal or even administrative responsibility in our legislation.
Panleukipenia and distemper, are different diseases. How do you attract? Sorry for the possibly cruel answer - no body, no case. You should have given the body for examination, if the doctor's negligence is confirmed, then demand compulsion and dismissal of the doctor. The worst thing is that even if the doctor is fired, tomorrow he will be working in another clinic or will be in private practice. There is no criminal or even administrative responsibility in our legislation.